In experiments on aerobic glycolysis in breast cancer cells, Chen et al. found that PHD2, rather than VHL, complexes with the special RNA stem-loop structure of lncRNA HISLA derived from the extracellular vesicle transmission of tumor-associated macrophages, which interferes with its own binding to HIF-1α and prevents HIF-1α from being hydroxylated and degraded. The gene discussed is HIF1A; the disease is breast cancer.